1and1 scams

First off I would love to go into detail like Thomas Hawk has with his horrible experience with PriceRitePhoto but I won’t.

My horrible consumer experience is with 1and1, the hosting company I can no longer recommend and if you use them I strongly recommend reading this and start your cancellation now.

It all started 6 months ago when I wanted to cancel my exchange hosting plan with 1and1. I emailed customer service directly and they responded with a link to cancel services. I went directly to the site and noticed for security purposes they have you sign a form and fax it to them to verify that you want to cancel your services, understandable. So I did. 30 days pass with no cancellation 60 days pass with no cancellation and then 67 days pass with no cancellation and they bill me for 90 more days of service. During that whole time frame I emailed them over and over asking them directly to cancel the service and they kept responding with the boiler template of “please visit cancel.1and1.com to cancel any service”.

2 months ago I left 1and1 for mediatemple because of stability issues of their root servers, configuration on my side or on theirs is unknown. I sign the contract for cancellation and I notice again the service will be cancelled in 30 days, I didn’t want to pay an extra $60 because by not cancelling the service in the next 13 days it would roll into the next billing period, so I crossed the 30 days out and put NOW. Doing so I can only guess voided the fax, in the fine print it said do not edit this form and without them telling me they billed me the next period. Noticing this I emailed their billing department for weeks trying to get a real response. 50 emails later, with mostly all the messages stating they never received the fax and me replying that I had confirmation emails to prove they did, I finally got a pleasing response, “we will credit you back”. Taking their word I waited and let my accounts just cancel.

Well they didn’t, I just got another invoice showing they charged me for my root plan. Knowing that that this day would come I called my credit card company days before and reported my card lost, freezing the card. And even though the invoice was after the date I froze the card I still need to call the CC company to confirm a non-charge. And I really hope there isn’t a charge because I rather not go through the CC company on the fraudulent charges from 1and1 even if it gets me back my money, I just want this to end.

I hate 1and1, I could only assume they do this on purpose because people, including myself, will just let it drag out for moths meanwhile charging them for services they don’t use.

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  • 1&1 Class Action Lawsuit
    I'd like to file a class action lawsuit against this company. Anyone with me?

    1and1 is ruining people's credit if people let their subscription expire. That's crazy! I have plenty of hosting accounts on the internet, so I am very familiar with hosting policies. When a subscription expires, and your card is expired, your prepay doesn't go through. That then cancels the account.

    But I guess 1and1 finds that it's profitable to send people to the NCO collection agency if they don't prepay for the next term without clicking the 'cancel' button, which is not even available on your control panel!

    Anyone else think this is an unfair business practice? I think we should contact the Abbey Spanier law firm and file a class action lawsuit!
  • Candleman
    I'll join!
    I have four domains listed with 1&1. Normally when the term expires your domain reverts back to the hosting company or becomes available. NOT SO with 1&1!
    Next thing I know I get a letter from a collections agency for $17,98 plus $8 "convenience fee"!
    I can expect a similar letter for each domain I have with 1&1.
    I called them and complained, to no avail. I requested authorization codes to transfer the domains which they sent immediately. However, they also blocked my abillity to unblock my domains. I only found that out when I received a message from GODADDY that they were unable to complete the transfer. According to technical support only "billing" would be able to unblock these domains. This would appear to be an incredibly unethical manner of doing business! I'd be embarrased to be working for such a company.

    Needless to say that in my opinion and experience they are a very bad company to deal with.
    SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE!
  • Vance Decker
    ABSOLUTELY! A domain expires, they can't charge you, so they send you to collections for a product they never even delivered!? The product here being the domain name registration. This is blatant fraud.

    They told me that I was on a hosting account with them. WOW, really?! How does that happen exactly when I only use them as a domain name registrar and not a hosting provider?

    Unfortunately, the blackmail is for $50, so not worth it to sue in small claims court, but well worth a large class action lawsuit!

    ABSURD!!! BTW, this is a prime example for all of your neo-con republican nazi's who want to do away with class action lawsuits under the guise of 'tort reform' then we would be left ZERO power to stop croporate corruption!
  • Amen.

    After months of abuse by 1 & 1 I have started the process of transferring any client from 1&1 to GoDaddy, even providing my labor to do so for free because it is NOT cost effective to continue working with 1&1 for ANY of their services.

    When a supervisor was requested after the disrespectful and poor-quality services delivered by a front-line support, I was repeatedly told "I will not provide you my supervisor."

    I will give 1&1 a short time to live before they go under with such poor support as in my experience has lead to the demise of other such companies.
  • Rembrant
    Nothings changed. Their 90 money back guarantee is a scam! Even if your not happy with it you can't cancel until the end of the full term. Bunch of clowns.
  • If a company is as great as they 'claim' to be and takes customer satisfaction and ethical business practices seriously, they should have no trouble geting an accreditation and getting a minimum of registered complaints(and these should be resolved).
  • Steve
    I have investigated 1&1 thoroughly and found their major tricks using PayPal. They are crooks and steal money deliberately as their main business. That's why do not be surprised at anything they do. It is their profession!
  • Deck
    Include a search within an independant consumer protection agency in your evaluation process (Better Business Bureau, consumer protection agency or similar group in your own country). If a company is as great as they 'claim' to be and takes customer satisfaction and ethical business practices seriously, they should have no trouble geting an accreditation and getting a minimum of registered complaints(and these should be resolved).

    1and1 is not accredited with the Better Business Bureau, they have the worst rating an "F" and have registered complaints by the hundreds. They are not the only ones with unsatisfactory dismal ratings to be sure, but other companies DO have good ratings without accreditation or are both accredited and with good ratings (this includes both medium sized companies and larger prominent companies).

    BTW: A TOC/TOS should be read, but it should not negate the law nor be used to provide cover for illegal activity. If 1&1 is defrauding you like many others, document your case(dates, names), contact a consumer advocacy group in your region for advice, and contact the general attorney's office or equivalent.
  • Renae
    Canceling your credit card does you no good. I had two websites with 1and1. After having a two month battle to cancel the first, I opted not to visit the website to cancel the second. I called in and was assured that the site had been canceled by phone.

    Luckily, my credit card expired within a week of canceling. So I was never charged. But they also never emailed, called or snail mailed me to inform me that they were having trouble charging my card.

    Now, TWO YEARS LATER, I have received a collection notice from their agency charging me for two years of service and a collection fee of $18.95.

    I have been disputing this with them for a full week. They keep telling me I never cancelled and that they tried to contact me and they even locked the account to get my attention.

    Well, I never received any contact from them. And how would I notice them locking the account if I wasn't using it because IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CANCELED!!!?

    So now they insist I pay for 2 years of service. And get this. . . the acount is still not canceled. They will continue to charge me until I go through the "proper channels" to cancel the account!
  • jen
    So I had my clients domain through 1and1 until they let an internet
    grabber (BlackIce) steal it.
    My credit card expired and I didn't know. The website came down and when
    I called they said that it had expired for lack of payment. So I paid the collection fees and then had to wait until it came out of redemption to buy it again. Well for 2 monthe I tried everyday and every domain site said that it was already taken. Finally I found that it was gone forever.
    Now there were NO e-mails as they said and no notices from their collection department. I keep all my e-mails even spam ones there was nothing.
    Now Black Ice who owns tje name wants $1000.00 to buy it.ITs a drag cause its a name.
    1and1 is a scam company.
  • Evan
    Who is the CEO if 1and1.com?
  • 1 & 1 Internet is a horrible company, but some recourse is possible! Not only am I a very disgruntled customer after they lied to me repeatedly after reselling a name I had registered and paid for with them, but I am an investigative journalist. In the last 8 months, I have written more than 30 articles, interviewed more than 200 people who have been blatantly wronged by 1 & 1 Internet, talked to several consumer groups and interested attorneys, and worked with over 60 radio and TV stations on this story. Everyone has been very interested, and the investigation continues. If you have had an issue with the company, you can do the following make a difference, and get your justice:

    1.) File a complaint with the Pennsylvania Attorney General’s office at www.pa.gov, or call the investigator Madelaine Dakour directly at (215) 560-6790. They have already received a large number of complaints, and have escalated the investigation, so make sure and contact them.
    2.) File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau where they already have a completely Unsatisfactory rating by going to www.bbb.org
    3.) File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission at www.ftc.gov
    4.) File a complaint with your state consumer advocacy group through the Attorney General’s office or Secretary of State’s office. Indiana’s is www.indianaconsumer.com
    5.) Explore your state’s legislative code and find out where they stand on mandatory arbitration clauses. The Federal Arbitration Act has been shot down by state courts if they find the 1 & 1 contract to be “unconscionable” and without “mutuality” as they offer nothing for the consumer. More and more courts are ruling in favor of consumers, especially with terms and conditions that allow for illegal activity. Breach of contract, fair trade laws, fraud, and consumer laws are the tip of the legal iceberg for 1 & 1.
    6.) I’m working with station affiliates of each of the major TV networks, and you can help by contacting your local station through the main sites at www.cbs.com, www.nbc.com, www.abc.com, and www.foxnews.com. Contact the investigative reporter, or simply send a news tip to the newsroom and they will follow up. Chances are, they are already aware of the major problems with the company.
    7.) Keep meticulous records!

    My lawsuit is pending, and I’ve been inundated with law firms wanting to take on the abysmal business practices, or lack thereof, with 1 & 1. The blatant disregard for the consumers has gotten the attention of the legal community, media, and consumers all across the country and by banding together, we can get some justice. You do not have to succumb to their tactics!

    Best wishes,
    Kelli J. Jack
    President
    Lines, Inc. Media
    8425 Woodfield Crossing Blvd.
    Suite #100
    Indianapolis, IN 46240
    (317) 469-7529
  • Dean
    1&1 Stole my domain name.

    I was stupid enough to sign up for a free domain with hosting package. When I cancelled the hosting they would not let me regain control of the domain, despite offering to pay.
    They said I would have to wait until became available to the public. It never came available and is now registered to 1&1.

    They lied to me and stole my domain. Do NOT deal with them.

    Good luck with your quest to discredit them.
  • Rick
    I've never had any problem uploading my files created in Dreamweaver and Flash to 1 and 1. I can only assume that they've improved in that regard in the meantime. That being said, I've had some RIDICULOUS problems out of them. Were it my choice, I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier.

    I work for a political campaign, and I just took over as their webmaster. Truth be told, I'm a total novice at it. When I agreed to take the job, I thought they were hiring me for my writing ability. Turns out, I was expected to improve upon a site so lousy that the previous webmaster built it in Front Page.

    Anyway, the newsletter function is simply the most absurd thing I've ever seen. Given the nature of the site, my ability to get one out in a timely manner is absolutely vital. It's tough enough that their newsletter "test queue" means that often, my approved email sits for five hours before I can set up distribution for it. But sometimes, it's even worse than that...

    We recently had a great news cycle. Within the span of three days, my boss was interviewed by USA Today, Washington Post, and MSNBC. I tried to get out a newsletter capitalizing on all of this, and their newsletter feature was down. I called to make sure it wasn't something I was doing wrong on Saturday morning. They tested and verified that it was their problem, and said hey would get back to me as soon as it was taken care of.

    Saturday afternoon, I try again, and it's still down. THe clock is ticking on our news cycle. Sunday morning rolls into Sunday afternoon, and it's still the same. Monday morning and afternoon went by, still no fix. Our news cycle is all but dead.

    Tuesday morning, so much time slipped by that my boss, a sitting congressman, got on a conference call with me and 1 and 1. When a sitting Congressman asked to speak to their tech department, he got further than a nobody like me.

    So the head of the tech department hems and haws for about a half hour, refusing to verify that there's even a problem. Finally, he tells me and the Congressman that it will be fixed later that day.

    Sure enough, it was. I got the newsletter sent out. And then I get a letter from their tech department telling me not only that there wasn't a problem, but that no one had reported such a problem.

    I flipped my lid and sent them an email telling them under no uncertain terms that they are not to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

    I am currently so angry at them that I'm ready to take it to another hosting company even if it requires doing so at my own expense.
  • JONC
    I originally registered my domain via 1and1 because I have seen so many advertisements about them and thought to myself how great it would be to use a great company.

    I originally registered my domain name on December 29, 2006. I paid using my credit card.

    A short time after registering my domain name and also have 1and1 hosting my internet email I started to have many problems which I didn’t like.

    In October of this past year I changed an email address and the one associated with fx98.com was no longer valid. I was given a run around by 1and1 and was made to send all types of documentation to them to show them I was the actual domain owner.

    December 29, 2007 I was on hold with 1and1 to change my billing account from PAYPAL to a credit card. After being on hold for more then 20 minutes I hung up the phone and sent the following email to them:

    I am requesting someone call me; i am no longer going to wait On the phone with you guys anymore. I want to pay by CC NOT PAYPAL Since Paypal will be rejected. Either you guys call or discontinue my service please. i am not interested in being made to wait long periods anymore. i can easily go to another service provider.

    January 2, 2008 I was informed by one of the customer services representatives (Lisa Kramer) that I was NOT Responsible for paying 1and1 internet anything else (Domain registration and/or Email services)

    On or about January 4, 2008 I contacted 1and1 internet “Technical Support” and was informed that I indeed wasn’t responsible for any monies owed to them


    January 7, 2008

    I received a bill from 1and1 saying they tried to bill me for the extra year of my domain. I waited 25 Minutes on the phone to get an associate; Brandon at that time told me I was responsible for the domain name “fx98.com” for an additional year of services when I didn’t authorize them to renew it. A few months ago I noticed that 1and1 at first registered the domain somehow for 2 year period when I told them one. I was informed they are holding me responsible for the money I owe them. I then spoke to a supervisor who put up an argument with me and told him I was responsible for the domain, and that the other associate “MADE A MISTAKE” and I would be responsible for any fees associated with my domain fx98.com


    I am totally upset and aggravated with 1and1. I thought they were one of the best companies ever but how can a “SUPERVISOR” David argue with me and tell me I was responsible for the charges regardless of the situation?


    .....

    I am requesting that something be done about this company now. According to the Better Business Bureau (BBB) 1and1 internet has had 460 Complaints filed against them within the past 36 months. The BBB Processed 245 Complaints within the past 12 month period.

    I believe that 1and1 is committing fraud and making people pay for services they are not responsible for.
  • Les
    I have been a customer of 1and1.co.uk for 3 or 4 years. In that time I have registered 30+ domains with them, spent a lot of money with them and on the whole had a pretty fault free service. HOWEVER their tech support is in the Philippines and it is unfortunately very poor.
    Recently I have had to rehost 3 websites elsewhere simply because they have either mysteriously ceased to work or have gone very slow. The respose from 1and1 tech support is always to fob me off so I have found that for my sanity rehosting is the quickest and easiest solution. I have started a programme of moving all my websites from 1and1.
    Perhaps one day when 1and1 lose a significant part of their customers they will take customer service seriously.
  • im not sure why you guys are yelling with 1and1.. i got my linux package since Feb of 2006. Up to now, it's still running smoothly. Mysql db is also good at all.. im not having any problem on it.

    not to mention, the price which is very cheap.
  • Vance Decker
    Did you actually read the posts here moron?
  • You know guys you can't please every one, some people say those people keep on murmuring are the lazy one. You can't expect really a good service or a good response from anyone. "Think of this"....there is no perfect person...Those people who made the server connection of a particular company such as 1and1,go daddy, network solutions...the IT technical persons are just human they are not perfect...put your selves in their shoe let us see if you can fix a problem in a minute....

    I was a student of CISCO before here in USA it is not that easy to set-up a server connection.. You guys are murmuring because you don't know how hard it is to make a network connection...If you only knew guys then you will understand these companies....

    Well I know that it is not your concern how they create the network. but you must also undertand that it is not that easy,,,,,

    you guys are selfish enough.. You just keep thinking money why won't you think about being good.... I know that people in US and UK and the other part of the world were catching the time...Why not relax take a depth breath and say thanks I'm still alive though there are people make me sucks..but I know they are doing their best to resolve the problem..

    If you can't solve your problem how much them... but that is one reason why there is a tech support for every company that is to figure out and sort out what the problem could be... Those tech support of those company were not sleeping in the couch they were just like you,,, begging for money they work as AGENT... Don't you know they keep smiling on the phone but if you see them on their chair you will see thier eyes full of tears because they wanted to help you however that is the only thing they can do for you...If they could then they will give to you the answers...

    And also you have no rights to say these words to them, "fool,idiot,fuck you,you are stupid" you know those words that you says to them affects there performance... for that day... as a result all the calls on that day become bad... and it is not their fault rather your faults...... We become what we think... Those people knows that you need help that is why they were there to help you.. maybe they don't have the answer right away but they will going to find the answers for you guys,,,,, Love you all and peace to be on earth....
  • fortissimo
    My complaint: I have had many of the same problems with 1and1. They tend to lag quite a bit when it comes to cancelling a package or a domain under the package. I have also had horrible response with a domain name I have registered and DNS problems with that. Where can I go to simply register a domain name at the same low price without these 1and1 problems?!? I certainly don't use 1and1 hosting, for sure, especially after all the negative feedback I've heard regarding 1and1 here.
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