Tagging vs. Cat’s

I just commented on Jared’s blog about tagging vs. categorizing and I thought it deserved a whole new post.

Here is a quote from Micheal:

Categories are is a finite range of static containers, into which you pour your content.
Tags are fluid, dynamic and can be entirely different from one end of your blog to the other.

And another from Mathew:

categories give a very general feel for the content, and only a few categories should be used per post (say randomly, 4 per post). Whereas tags give more specific detail, including maybe a few vaguely related tags so that the post shows up on a wider tag search, in the same way as you may do a fairly non-specfic search in google before narrowing down. Tags per post can also number a fairly large amount as it doesnt add more pish to the structure of the blog.

And of course I agree.
Just because you have more detailed categories doesn’t mean you are tagging. Especially if you created those “tagsâ€? before you started tagging/writing your post.

Tagging is limitless; it describes the post in such detail that a broad description like Movies, Microsoft, and Apple cannot be considered enough of a tag. When I see tags I see a lot of words that detail the entire post. For example, this post, I will most likely tag it as Tags, Wordpress, Jared, Plugins, Opinion, maybe some more, but if I tagged it as Blogging, Opinion it wouldn’t be enough to describe the post. It would be enough to categorize the post but not to describe it enough for someone to find in a search.

Searching is the main reason to tag. I could go on and on with analogies and descriptions but you should know that tagging helps people search and find. Finding things that they normally wouldn’t be interested in is the best part. If a user came and read my posts under ‘Safari‘ they might want to read about ‘Apple‘ which then could take them to a numerous of other places like ‘Camino‘ or ‘OSx‘. Limiting your tags limits the range of how far a user/reader can go.

Right now when I upload my pictures of Avery to flickr and name them all “Averyâ€?, just to save time, is that a tag? No. Just because flickr calls it a tag doesn’t mean it is a tag. I just categorized all those photos to one group called “Averyâ€?, because whether she is at the pool, park, movie, running, singing or skydiving they all can only be found under the tag Avery?

Like I have said before this is a preference of the owner/writer/blogger, if they want to tag/categorize there posts in broad subjects and call them tags that is their preference; even if I don’t agree with it.

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  • nstryker
    haloscan
  • Are the really old ones you're referring to Blogger comments or Haloscan?
  • Dan
    I guess that is why you need 236 more days.
  • nstryker
    yup, and i even plan to figure out a way to transfer my way old comments from back in the day.
  • Why not? I thought he was using your system to do comments; what does it store them in? (database, xml, etc.) I guarantee that you could write a script/program to transition them to wordpress.
  • Dan
    you know what's going to suck is all those comments. No way you can get those to transfer.

    Just think, every day lost means every comment for that day is lost. FOREVER.
  • So why wait?
  • nstryker
    1 sql script to take care of everything all at once.
  • Dan
    237 days till WordPress, 237 days till flickr, 5 days of extra work; priceless.
  • nstryker
    237 days til i move to wordpress/flickr.
  • Dan
    But the longer you wait the more unrealistic your "completion" will be.
  • nstryker
    yeah, i demand completion.
  • Good point. I still have my gallery up for this reason, even though I moved everything into Flickr and am using that going forward - I don't want to go back and change all my old posts, so I'll just leave the gallery up.
  • Dan
    Why don't you start then after a while just break your old img sources. While posting them on flickr. more people would be able to see them on flickr then in the heap of your blog.
  • nstryker
    the bad thing of moving to flickr is changing all the img src's for the past year +. i've already switched image servers once which is why the first few months images are missing. i'll do it someday though, cuz i definitely see the benefit of flickr.
  • Dan
    More then someone would search by category.
    I think people would use tags, if done correctly, to navigate a site/blog because they can find exactly what they want; fast. I find myself going to a lot of blogs, and if they tag, snooping around for a little while. If I saw a categories I would just move on.



    i guess you wouldn't know the 'real' benefits of tagging if you didn't use delicious or flickr (start to use flickr, I would love to see an archive of your drawings and pics from your blog).
  • It's mostly for searching (as Dan said) and aggregation in external systems (like Technorati, etc.)
  • nstryker
    does anybody actually use that crap? do you visit blogs just to read the "tech posts" and only read the tech post page or something? seems kinda silly.
  • Why did you trackback this post to itself?

    See my response on my blog.
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